We've upgraded to the latest version of Movabletype. Did it help? Feel free to beat the shit out of this thread testing it out.
Posted by jpoulos at September 23, 2002 11:35 AMYeah, I realize I didn't need to take the site down to perform the upgrade, but I wanted to be double safe.
Posted by: jpoulos on September 23, 2002 11:37 AMIt was supposed to stop the error messages that we've been getting when we comment.
Posted by: jpoulos on September 23, 2002 11:48 AMATTENTION TECHIE-TYPE CITIZENS AND VISITORS OF 9622.NET
I think I've known the problem all along. I've just been in denial. Basically, Dreamhost (who hosts 9622.net) runs a procwatch script, which kills processes that take too much of their server resources.
At least that's what they say. I can see where rebuilding the entire site might be too resource-intensive for them to handle, but adding a simple comment shouldn't come close to the limits the procwatch imposes.
When I asked them how procwatch would come into play on such a small scale, they sent me this:
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First, it is commonly known that MT scripts are resource intensive; not just local problem on our servers. And although our script monitoring tool will begin killing processes once one of the default allowable levels for processes are reached, we are trying to figure out a way to reduce this as much as possible. This is not only beneficial to our MT users, but also to us since these scripts tend to cause an overall increase in server loads.
Next, just to give you a better idea of the resource use, typical http traffic and such processes are owned by the system user "dhapache". However, since CGI and Perl scripts are owned and thus run by the user, such processes are also owned by the user. So overall web traffic to static pages will not itself cause such processes to be killed but accessing pages with cgi scripts that go over specific usage limits will. The usage limits are determined by the following possible factors:
* user with more than 25 total processes (kill any that puts them over)
* user using more than 75% of processor with multiple processes (kill any that puts them over)
* user using more that 20% of memory with multiple processes (kill any that puts them over)
* one process using more than 50% of processor for longer than 3 minutes (kill process)
* one process using more than 10% of memory for longer than 3 minutes (kill process)
We are doing what we can to try and optimize are servers and database servers to help such customes, but we can only do so much with the amount of backend knowledge of MT scripts. I have been doing some personal research at http://www.movabletype.org and other resources to get some assistance on making our customers' scripts work a little more friendly/efficient with our system.
One thing that has come to our attention is something I found in the 'mt.cfg' file. It's the section on NFS on 'flock'/'fnctl' which I have copied and pasted below.
# By default Movable Type uses Perl's flock() function to lock your
# databases while reading and writing. On systems using NFS-mounted
# directories, however, Perl's flock() may fail, unless the perl executable
# has been built to use fnctl(2) instead of flock(2); and even then, it is
# not certain that the locking will truly work.
#
# Thus, if you have problems running Movable Type on systems using NFS, you
# can use this directive to use simpler file locking that will work over NFS.
#
# NOTE: do not adjust this setting unless you know what you are doing!
#
# UseNFSSafeLocking 1
Our shared hosting environment, if you are not already aware, is mounted over NFS to their specific file server. NFS mounted systems works really well for shared servers and allows for growth, movement and emergency scenarios. Although the authors of MT are not certain that the above will always work or even be helpful, it may be interesting to try. Since most MT users, go with default settings, my guess is that most customers have not uncommented the last line. If you wish to attempt this, I would first recommend backing up all your data beforehand just in case.
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I un-commented that UseNFSSafeLocking line (even though I don't know what I'm doing) and it didn't change anything.
Does any of this make sense to anyone, or do you have any ideas?
Posted by: jpoulos on September 23, 2002 12:26 PMWhy lupo? Why do you encourage people to beat me so???
Posted by: This Thread on September 23, 2002 12:26 PMListen, you lousy little thread. You're a total fuck-up and you know it. Just look what you did with all those italics. You've had this ass-kicking coming for a long time now.
You sicken me.
Posted by: jpoulos on September 23, 2002 12:32 PMUm, are we in thread boot camp now or something?
Posted by: witchstone on September 23, 2002 12:45 PMWith no knowledge of MT, nor of Perl, I still find it a bit weird that the server might be killing processes for 9622 as outlined above, especially considering that I've gotten more 500 errors when there seems to be very little traffic going on (as compared to say, the God thread or such)
/input
Posted by: romakimmy on September 23, 2002 12:49 PMI usually get up early anyway, so I may as well participate in server calesthenics. (sp?)
Posted by: anathema on September 23, 2002 12:50 PMI'd just like to say that I bought a VHS of Murnau's Nosferatu with a band called "Killing Process" doing music over it. It's really, really shitty. Killing Process, as a band, are really, really shitty.
And yet, despite all this shittiness, perhaps the shittiest thing of all is this thread, steaming like a fresh goat turd on the clean linen landscape of life.
I despise this thread with every fibre of my being and spurn it as I would spurn a rabid dog. I condemn it to wander the uncharted regions of the cyber desert, bereft and unloved, for all eternity.
I cast you out, foul thread!
Posted by: kafkaesque on September 23, 2002 12:59 PMStrangely enough I have very little trouble with this site. I have only gotten the error message once or twice at the most.
*shines halo*
Posted by: b****fire on September 23, 2002 01:01 PMStrangely enough I have very little trouble with this site. I have only gotten the error message once or twice at the most.
*shines halo*
Posted by: b****fire on September 23, 2002 01:02 PMIronically I just got the error message for the third time. It figures.
Posted by: b****fire on September 23, 2002 01:02 PMVengeance is mine! I double post thee, firer of bunnies!
My Father comes!
Posted by: This Thread on September 23, 2002 01:03 PMJust when I start to think that Kafkaesque might actually have a point, lo and behold, he does.
Does thinking make it so?
Posted by: witchstone on September 23, 2002 01:04 PMI cannot be held responsible for any of my acitons today. I have just opened my first box of Cheddar Jack Cheez-Its and they are so disgusting I will probably eat the whole box.
May the Lord have mercy upon my soul.
Posted by: kafkaesque on September 23, 2002 01:08 PMHis Mighty Thinking does make It so, Witch of Stone! Witness how he hath bludgeoned B****fire with his Iron, generating Irony so delicious it beggeth for syrup! Observe how he bringeth news of crappy band soundtracks for the Edification of all, to his own detriment! Remember thee his immortal Haiku and occasional limerick! Gasp in wonderment at his two-dollah wordiness, and nary a Thesaur in sight!
Behold the Kaf! Bring thee forth the Cheezit Goodness, so that he may Sup until replete!
*kowtows*
Posted by: Unclefes on September 23, 2002 01:12 PMKaf, we are going to get nowhere with this scam until you stop wetting yourself in front of the supplicants, mmkay?
Posted by: Unclefes on September 23, 2002 01:19 PMIf it's so delicious why does it need syrup?
Just askin'.
Posted by: b****fire on September 23, 2002 01:20 PMI meant my thinking, but whatever. Semantics, that's all it comes down to in the end.
Posted by: witchstone on September 23, 2002 01:22 PMThe great thing about Cheddar Jack Cheez-Its, besides their disgustingness, is the fact that even though they allegedly have 2 kinds of cheese action going down, they taste even less like real cheese, and more like high grade petrochemicals.
Posted by: kafkaesque on September 23, 2002 01:22 PMI have opted for the Pirate's Booty with White Aged Cheddar goodness.
Posted by: witchstone on September 23, 2002 01:23 PMThe great thing about Cheddar Jack Cheez-Its, besides their disgustingness, is the fact that even though they allegedly have 2 kinds of cheese action going down, they taste even less like real cheese, and more like high grade petrochemicals.
Posted by: kafkaesque on September 23, 2002 01:23 PM2 kinds of cheez-like substance, 2 posts.
That's the way of the universe. All things are one.
Posted by: kafkaesque on September 23, 2002 01:24 PMI am unfamiliar with this booty of which you speak.
Posted by: kafkaesque on September 23, 2002 01:25 PMEven in this twoness, oneness lurks. The outcome of this dilemma can only be threeness. There shall be no sixness.
Posted by: kafkaesque on September 23, 2002 01:28 PMUnless one multiplieth the twoness with the threeness. Then, sixness is likely.
Posted by: kafkaesque on September 23, 2002 01:30 PMJust one of the many snacks you can find at robscape.com (or at your local deli). Veggie Booty is also snackeriffic.
And no, I don't work for Rob. Although I may or may not have given him oral pleasure.
Posted by: witchstone on September 23, 2002 01:31 PMIf it's so delicious why does it need syrup?
Why, tradition, of course.
Posted by: Unclefes on September 23, 2002 01:44 PMWhat? What's that? I almost thought I heard this thread say something.
No. I guess not.
Posted by: kafkaesque on September 23, 2002 01:47 PMI meant my thinking
Oh. Never mind then.
*eyes Kaf's wet pants, now covered in cheezit crumbs*
Bow thee to the Witch of Stone, thou peckers! Behold her toothsome Mightiness....
Posted by: Unclefes on September 23, 2002 01:47 PMYou realize, you miserable little thread, that I can kill you with the click of a mouse...
Posted by: jpoulos on September 23, 2002 01:52 PMJust because a guy's got urine and Cheez-Its all over himself, that's no reason to abandon me!
Hug?
Posted by: kafkaesque on September 23, 2002 01:52 PMYou know, I can take the urine.
I can even take the Cheez-its crumbs.
What I can't take, however, is the milk moustache.
Posted by: witchstone on September 23, 2002 01:57 PMNo hug for you, Kaufmannesque. And do it, Lupo, you fascist fop, I dare you!
Posted by: This Thread on September 23, 2002 01:59 PM... and thus must I abandon you, my friend. Settle for a high five?
Posted by: Unclefes on September 23, 2002 02:00 PMIs it Libby's? It's Libby's, right?
Or two construction workers getting in an argument?
Posted by: kafkaesque on September 23, 2002 02:05 PMBehold her toothsome Mightiness....
For some reason, fes old boy, I find the word 'toothsome' vaguely disturing.
Veggie Booty is also snackeriffic.
snackeriffic it may be, but do the words 'veggie' and 'booty' belong in the same sentence? I worry...
Posted by: jonmc on September 23, 2002 02:39 PMI have a huge sebaceous cyst on the back of my ear.
You're welcome.
Posted by: Crash on September 23, 2002 02:50 PMThese new machines run faster, make a lighter, puffier and superior product that taste great. Due to these changes in manufacturing there was a need to adjust the amount of cheese to the Pirate's Booty
Arrr, sounds a wee bit suspicious to me, Jim lad! Hoist the cheezy mizzen mast!
Posted by: tizzie on September 23, 2002 02:52 PM... but thanks to the cyst newsflash, I am no longer hungry anywho!
Posted by: tizzie on September 23, 2002 02:54 PMI have a huge sebaceous cyst on the back of my ear.
Are we invited to the squeezin'?
Posted by: Unclefes on September 23, 2002 03:02 PMGood gracious!
It's sebaceous!
Fetch the scalpel
Fetch the lancet!
Drop your drawers
And do the dance-it!
Good gracious!
It's sebaceous!
Like a pimple
Like a mountain!
Apply the pressure,
see the fountain!
ahahahhahahahahah! I'm freaking out!
Posted by: kafkaesque on September 23, 2002 03:24 PMAfter the drainin', save me some o' the pus. I make a nice side income sellin' it to the Heinz people.
Posted by: jonmc on September 23, 2002 03:27 PMdo the words 'veggie' and 'booty' belong in the same sentence? I worry...
You haven't lived, my friend. You haven't lived.
Posted by: jpoulos on September 23, 2002 04:05 PMI have a warning for any Sopranos fans out there: some unGODLY stuff happens in episode 3 (to be aired next week), and I am presently cutting the scene out of the video and will post it to the pile later (and perhaps elsewhere).
Posted by: adampsyche on September 23, 2002 04:24 PMoh, adampsyche, you tempt my virtue!
*struggles with inner turmoil of urge to hear more, in much the same way that Dr. Melfi struggled with telling Tony about her assault in Season Three*
aaargh, I'm a Sopranos soap-opera type junkie!
Posted by: tizzie on September 23, 2002 04:31 PM"I...will post it to the pile later (and perhaps elsewhere)."
I'd vote for elsewhere, if only because I haven't the foggiest idea where the pile is.
Unless of course you mean the filepile pile, in which case I haven't got a membership, which is just as useful as not knowing where the pile is.
Have I made myself unclear?
Posted by: Crash on September 23, 2002 05:16 PMAdam, I must know, or I'm gonna spew like that stripper last night.
Posted by: ColdChef on September 23, 2002 05:22 PMSpeaking of strippers, I went to see some honest-to-god burlesque last night and they were fabulous. It was the real deal, no pole wriggling, no bad 80's hair, real breasts with real pasties on them--it was great. They did choreographed numbers that almost all evoked another era: Busby Berkeley, the jazz era, fabulous fifties housewives playing "musical chairs" where whoever wins takes off another article of clothing....
My head is throbbing because I had too much beer, but those girls sure were adorable. They even had curves (Crash, I'm looking at you).
Posted by: readymade
on
September 23, 2002 05:38 PM
I've never even seen a whole episode, but I must know how adam has access to episodes which have not aired.
Posted by: anathema on September 23, 2002 05:44 PMok, you guys convinced me. i will post it to my server and provide a link here in ten minutes.
Posted by: adam on September 23, 2002 05:51 PMYeah, Adrianna sure tossed her cookies on the FBI...I have episodes 1-4 from this season, and only one and two have aired.
Posted by: adam on September 23, 2002 05:55 PMHere it is. Right click, save as, it is a .wmv file.
Turn up the sound, too.
Posted by: adam on September 23, 2002 05:56 PMNever have I seen The Sopranos.
Once I saw a bunch of castratis shaking a guy down for his milk money.
Does that count?
Posted by: kafkaesque on September 23, 2002 06:06 PMI have never been a big tv person, and certainly not sitcoms, but I couldn't help but get sucked into it. I can't get out!!!
Posted by: adam on September 23, 2002 06:08 PMHey I saw this John Ritter movie once like that. I think you have to go through some daytime soap operas and talk shows and then maybe your kids can zap you out with the remote or something.
Hoo! Good times, good times.
Posted by: kafkaesque on September 23, 2002 06:19 PMYou still haven't explained how you are able to do this adam. Maybe you've signed non-disclosure agreements or something...
Posted by: anathema on September 23, 2002 06:20 PMWhew! For a minute there I thought he was going to say he got it from Kazaam.
Posted by: Crash on September 23, 2002 08:24 PMWithout a doubt the crown jewel in the O'Neal oeuvre.
Posted by: jpoulos on September 23, 2002 08:35 PMThe worst job he ever had was retrieving lobsters from Jayne Mansfield's bum.
Posted by: tizzie on September 23, 2002 08:41 PMAh, tizzie - Derek and Clive, the three funniest albums ever recorded!
Posted by: Miguel on September 23, 2002 10:39 PMI just ate some Hostess Apple Spice Cup Cakes. I'd never seen 'em before yesterday when I spied 'em in the gas station snak rak. I took em home and there's no apples in 'em and the spices are hard to identify, but they are de-fuggin'-licious. The are filled with that concoction known as "creme." I believe it's spelled that way because it contains no apparent dairy thus making it "not cream."
Twas yummy at any rate. I just can't let a good test-market snak food go unnapraised.
Carry on.
Posted by: jonmc on September 23, 2002 10:56 PMDear Sir,
Is there anything you WON'T eat?
Yes, you say? But what if I fried it?
I thought so.
Posted by: ColdChef on September 23, 2002 10:58 PM"Hey! I can see my house from here!"
Where'd I put that blender?
Posted by: ColdChef on September 23, 2002 11:01 PMBut what if I fried it?
Or, apparently, you could add "creme".
Yes, I lost this week. Marshall Faulk's neck held out just long enough for him to score a TD for my opponent. Hence, my presence. Snarl. Gripe, bitch, moan.
Posted by: yhbc on September 23, 2002 11:01 PMOoh. That looks bad, Chef. Hope you've got your windows boarded up.
Posted by: yhbc on September 23, 2002 11:04 PMYeah, that looks bad, but holy fucking shit!
I'd be for heading to high ground permanently.
Posted by: Crash on September 23, 2002 11:26 PMCC, it may be time to visit your Monkey Brethren. This past weekend I heard an extended story about what would happen if a category 5 hurricane hit NO. Very scary.
Posted by: anathema on September 24, 2002 07:05 AMYep. My brother works for FEMA. He told me that there's a warehouse in Baton Rouge that's holding 100,000 body bags. Just waiting.
Waiting...waiting.
Posted by: ColdChef on September 24, 2002 07:51 AMIn global time, by the estimates of many, the Big Easy is not long for this world. John McPhee's The Control of Nature has a section about it.
Posted by: jpoulos on September 24, 2002 08:11 AM
Coldchef, seriously, keep an eye on that storm.
But for the rest of you, tropical storms/mild hurricanes aren't that big a deal if you are high enough in elevation. But don't stand under any trees.
Posted by: b****fire on September 24, 2002 08:55 AMWhoops! There goes La Place!
Seriously, I hope that storm diminishes over the next few days and isn't as bad as it looks from here. Take care.
Posted by: octobersurprise on September 24, 2002 09:55 AMHey, what happened to my post from about two hours ago? It was there when I previewed.... *cries*
*sings*
*and I'll never have that recipe againnnnnn!*
Ridin' the storm out, waitin' for the thaw out
On a full moon night in the Rocky Mountain winter...
or something like that...Loosiana style.
Posted by: jonmc on September 24, 2002 10:53 AMCommish, you're a sports guy. Shouldn't Pete be in the Hall of Fame??!?!
Posted by: tizzie on September 24, 2002 11:07 AMNO NO NO NO NO.
jpoulos's jihad against pete rose being in the hall of fame scores 4 Dianas and a Dando....
Posted by: jpoulos on September 24, 2002 11:32 AMNobody with hair like that should be in the Hall of Fame.
Posted by: kafkaesque on September 24, 2002 11:51 AMLupo! You are cruel, cruel!
Pete should be there, dude.
Even Mr. Perfect, Tom Browning, agrees.
Posted by: tizzie on September 24, 2002 11:51 AMHis hair, as Mr. Zevon says, was perfect.
You guys are just wrong.
Posted by: tizzie on September 24, 2002 11:54 AMAll the asshole had to do was admit what he did and apologize for it, but he's far too arrogant for that. He thinks he's bigger than the game. He's not.
When they let the BlackSox in, they can let Pete in. They both did a huge disservice to the game. At least most of the BlackSox admitted it.
</rant>
sigh. you see what this evil evil thread hath wrought?
Posted by: jpoulos on September 24, 2002 12:00 PMWait... wait... I am chanelling.... a message from The Beyond.....
"... tell jpoulos that he's wrong; absolutely, Pete should be in the Hall of Fame, just like Bob Hayes should have been put in the NFL Hall of Fame before he died. If these things are really only about
"character", then they're worthless as memorials of athletic accomplishment."
Oh wise spirit of the Commish himself! Thank you for your speaking the truth!
Posted by: tizzie on September 24, 2002 12:02 PMNO!!!!
This is getting bad. I just lost a whole (beautiful) comment because of this damn server.
Posted by: jpoulos on September 24, 2002 12:17 PMthere goes that cake in the rain again!
*weeps for Lupo even though he is cruel to Pete*
If these things are really only about
"character", then they're worthless as memorials of athletic accomplishment."
I completely agree with that, tizzie. Ty Cobb was the biggest asshole to ever play the game, but he belongs in the Hall. The Rose things isn't (entirely) about character, it's about:
(a) betting on baseball
(b) turning the sport into a circus by engaging in a public standoff with the commissioner (Giamatti, not yhbc, although i'd love to see commish go head to head with pete in extreme croquet)
here's an analogy:
Suppose I'm an incredible softare developer, working for mircosoft. I mean, I'm one of the best in the world. But I take my code and sell it to IBM for personal gain. Then I come out in all the newspapers and call Bill Gates an asshole. Microsoft can't then be expected to pay me all sorts of accolades just because my code was so good.
It was all in Rose's hands. He could be in the Hall right now, if he had just admitted what he had done. Instead, he chose to embarrass himself, the commissioner, the league and the sport as a whole. The damage he did, IMO, at least outweighs the (admittedly extraordinary) good he did with a bat.
Posted by: jpoulos on September 24, 2002 12:24 PMThe truth is that in Cincinnati, Pete is bigger than the game. 40,000 plus people show up for softball? C'mon! The Reds barely came close to that in any game this year.
Posted by: tizzie on September 24, 2002 12:25 PMThe truth is that in Cincinnati, Pete is bigger than the game.
To be perfectly frank, I find that very sad.
Posted by: jpoulos on September 24, 2002 12:32 PMTune in next week when lupo and tizzie square off in a cage match to determine the best punt returner of all time.
Posted by: jpoulos on September 24, 2002 12:32 PMTune in next week when lupo and tizzie square off in a cage match to determine the best punt returner of all time.
Posted by: jpoulos on September 24, 2002 12:34 PMuse the back button, then post again. You will probably get a double post but at least it WILL post.
*pats self on back*
Posted by: b****fire on September 24, 2002 12:35 PMdamn, bunny. you've got advice on comment-posting and hurricane safety?
You should write a book. The Bunny's Almanac? :-)
(I kid.)
Posted by: jpoulos on September 24, 2002 12:42 PMI think it's sad too, not because of the glory that is Pete, but because of the sad state of the game.
*sigh*
cage match? *perk*
Posted by: tizzie on September 24, 2002 12:45 PMAbout the posting problem, it seems to happen less when I use Netscape. Coincidence?!?
Posted by: tizzie on September 24, 2002 12:47 PMNo, something is going crazy. I did my back button trick in the Tragedy thread, got 2 error messages and tried posting 4 times (twice without error messages) and nothing would post.
There's a ghost in the machine.
What they need is a Hall of Infamy for all the shitty people have been good athletes. No wait, that would fill up too quick.
Posted by: witchstone on September 24, 2002 12:49 PMWell, irony happens-in the other thread my post got eaten. So much for hubris.
But I HAVE been in a few hurricanes.
Posted by: b****fire on September 24, 2002 01:49 PMThat's what they say about Witchstone - Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic....
Posted by: tizzie on September 24, 2002 01:57 PMNow that's what I'm talkin' about! Synchronicity!
Posted by: witchstone on September 24, 2002 02:02 PMPeople of 9622, I shit you not: Roxanne is playing in the cubicle next to mine at this very moment!
It makes you think that perhaps there are spirits in the material world.
Posted by: witchstone on September 24, 2002 02:35 PMHey mister, I want to know how you think you're going to pay for that! Yeah, guess who's going to be wrapped around MY finger!
Posted by: witchstone on September 24, 2002 02:41 PMThe telephone is ringing.
Is that my mother on the phone?
eh. Sting is shite, but Outlandos d'Amour is a great record.
Posted by: jpoulos on September 24, 2002 02:57 PM*watches effigy rise phoenix-like, but in lotus position*
*immolates self in reality*
Posted by: liam on September 24, 2002 02:59 PMWho is the little one? A pet perhaps?
Will she deserve my special attentions?
Posted by: kafkaesque on September 24, 2002 03:02 PM*Tries in vain to remember a single quote from "Brimstone and Treacle"...fails*
Posted by: kafkaesque on September 24, 2002 03:05 PMSting is shite? I beg to differ.
Especially in the Don't Stand So Close To Me video. Ladies, are you with me? Total hottie.
OK and besides the shallow "he was hot" thing, I really love The Police and a lot of his solo stuff. I don't care if he was in the Jaguar commercial.
Posted by: witchstone on September 24, 2002 03:09 PMThe soulless droning of standards in Leaving Las Vegas was also heinous, because they're so many good earlier versions of those songs.
Posted by: liam on September 24, 2002 03:10 PMIn related news, I was relieved to hear that the R&B artist known as "Mario" has a released "Just a Friend 2002". Because, you know, I really didn't feel like the Biz Marke song got enough airplay.
Posted by: witchstone on September 24, 2002 03:24 PMWitchstone, woman, you speak the hottie truth. He is eye candy.
I had a huge Sting-crush about ten years ago, and went to many Police and subsequent concerts, including the tour with Branford Marsalis - which was good. I still would not kick the man out of bed for eating crackers, mind you, but my overwhelming lust has cooled.
Next!
Posted by: tizzie on September 24, 2002 03:31 PM... the thing is, Sting knows he's a hottie, and that just ruins it for me. Maybe I just dated too many egomaniacs in college. feh.
Posted by: whatnot on September 24, 2002 03:37 PMI can't talk about the Police without thinking of the drunk who lived next door to me back in my college daze. Every night, his prep school buddy would come over and they'd play their two favorite songs--"Born in the 50's" by the Police and Van Halen's "And the Cradle Will Rock!" over and over and over and over all night long. I'm still recovering.
BTW, have you seen Junior's grades?
Posted by: jonmc on September 24, 2002 04:28 PMMaybe I just dated too many egomaniacs in college.
Whatnot, I told you stay away from David Copperfield, but would you listen?
Posted by: witchstone on September 24, 2002 04:36 PMAwwww, jpoulos, you sweetie-pie!
*still thinks Pete should be in the HOF*
Posted by: tizzie on September 24, 2002 04:51 PMI don't want to find Sting fire hot, but dammit, I do.
Posted by: brittney on September 24, 2002 05:14 PMHey! The Traveling Hall of Fame exhibit is in Los Angeles right now!
Posted by: kafkaesque on September 24, 2002 05:32 PMWitchstone, you were right. I should have dated Doug instead. *sigh*
Posted by: whatnot on September 25, 2002 12:00 AMA note about posting images:
We encourage users to post images, especially those hilarous pics of monkeys
wearing dresses or programming for Linux. But posting images that reside on someone
else's server is considered by many to be bandwidth theft. Our thoughts
on the matter, along with some solutions to the problem, can be found
here. Thanks.
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