
Woo woo! (just what exactly is that monkey drinking?)
Posted by adampsyche at November 26, 2002 02:11 PMWorld War III: Bio-warfare wipes out human life.
More fruit and cola for the monkeys. In general, a great place to start all over again.
Posted by: shane on November 26, 2002 02:32 PMWas that pic taken in Thailand?
In that case, judging from the monkey expressions, I would guess a Sangha beer.
Posted by: b****fire on November 26, 2002 02:40 PMWas that pic taken in Thailand?
In that case, judging from the monkey expressions, I would guess a Sangha beer.
Posted by: b****fire on November 26, 2002 02:40 PMEventually 10,000 monkeys with 10,000 fruit flavors will come up with Vanilla Coke too.
Posted by: liam on November 26, 2002 02:51 PMThese kids! So much fresh fruit and what do they want? Bleedin' Del Monte.
Posted by: Miguel on November 26, 2002 02:54 PMToday the Food Network unveiled it's latest offering: Simian Salad Bar.
CAUTION:Contains scenes of gratuitous poop-flinging and occasional. Parental Discretion advised.
Posted by: jonmc on November 26, 2002 03:22 PMinsert "cantaloupe humping" after "occasional" please.
Otherwise, it's not funny, you see.
Posted by: jonmc on November 26, 2002 03:38 PMComment...lessee here.
The red X flies at midnight! With a lemur.
Posted by: kafkaluxinterior on November 26, 2002 03:47 PM
Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps! Peeps!
Posted by: Crash on November 26, 2002 04:03 PMI can't see anything either. I can see a lot of sexy coloured chicks saying peeps. Why are they saying that?
Posted by: ginz on November 26, 2002 04:19 PMWow. People actually eat those Peeps. I didn't think they did.
Posted by: witchstone on November 26, 2002 04:51 PMAnd the colored chicks say
doo
dadoo
dadoo
doo-doo
dadoo
dadoo
dadoo
doo-doo dadooooooooo
*sax solo*
Posted by: kafkaluxinterior on November 26, 2002 05:24 PMBy the way B****fire, that's Singha Beer.
As in (sing it with me mssr. kafkascamps):
Finally found a place they could never reach
Sipping singha beer on Pattaya Beach
Singha beer don't ask no questions
Singha beer don't tell no lies
Singha beer don't ask no questions
Singha beer don't tell no lies
There's a guy next to me won't tell me his name
Buy's me mekong whiskey just the same
Singha beer don't ask no questions
Singha beer don't tell no lies
Singha beer don't ask no questions
Singha beer don't tell no lies
I'm just a wally
Hanging out on Pattaya Beach
I'm just a wally
Hanging out on Pattaya Beach
The Pogues, "House of the Gods"
Heh. I don't know what happened to my Hell's Ditch. I need to buy that again.
Posted by: kafkaluxinterior on November 26, 2002 06:44 PMI stand corrected.
Actually I almost wound up reeking of Singha beer on the way to Thailand. I was seated next to a really nice Thai man on a flight from LA to Bangkok and he had about five of them-one of which he spilled. Missed me by millimeters.
If you ever meet anyone from that area of the world and they claim to have elephants in their refrigerator, believe them. They will be of the longnecked glass variety.
Posted by: b****fire on November 26, 2002 07:08 PMYou can buy Elephant Lager here. It's made by....ummm...I wnat to say the Carlsberg people but it could be someone else. Anyway it's strong malt stuff.
Posted by: kafkaluxinterior on November 26, 2002 07:24 PMI used to drink Elephant. The timeline's a little fuzzy in my brain as to the when and why, but the higher alcohol content may account for that. I think it was my transitional beer between cheap, horrid swill when I was too broke to buy anything else, and more expensive beer that actually tasted good (and in hindsight, drinking Elephant looks suspiciously like a grab at a quicker buzz). Ah, youth.
Posted by: readymade on November 26, 2002 08:02 PMThere's the pic again. Yahoo briefcase likes to switch that up on ya every now and then.
Top Gun is on TV tonight. Maverick and Goose...aw, yeah...
Posted by: adam on November 26, 2002 09:23 PMeyeballkid, I almost posted those Pogues lyrics myself. Had the song in my head all afternoon.
Posted by: shane on November 26, 2002 09:34 PMeyeballkid, I almost posted those Pogues lyrics myself. Had the song in my head all afternoon.
Posted by: shane on November 26, 2002 09:34 PMI've seen Top Gun on three different stations (including VH1 for some reason) in as many weeks. Highway to the Danger Zone, baby.
Posted by: eyeballkid on November 26, 2002 10:17 PMAnyone here seen an Eric Stoltz film called Sleep With Me, in which Quentin Tarentino has a short role as an annoying party guest with a hilarious theory about homoerotic themes in Top Gun?
Posted by: shane on November 26, 2002 10:45 PMNever. Seen. Top Gun.
*bows*
Thank you. Thank you very much!
Posted by: jpoulos on November 27, 2002 08:06 AMMe. Neither.
and I've never read Bridges Of Madison County either.
**elbows lupo out of the way, bows deeply**
Posted by: jonmc on November 27, 2002 08:43 AMshane: many times.
That actually prompted my brother to yell 'This is sooooo gay' from the other room where he was watching it last night.
I think Tim Robbins had too small a role though.
Posted by: tj on November 27, 2002 08:57 AMI am an English major who never read Grapes of Wrath or Moby Dick.
*runs away after being pelted with fruit and monkey-sized Red Bull cans, not empty*
Posted by: adam on November 27, 2002 09:02 AMMe neither about Top Gun.
Did you hear the LA Times film critic this morning on NPR say that George Clooney can't act? I disagree! He can so. He definitely can. He's brilliant!
... he's so handsome.
Posted by: tizzie on November 27, 2002 09:02 AMI've never seen Top Gun and have a hard time watching anything with Tom Cruise in it. He annoys me. Dustin Hoffman didn't seem to like him much after Rainman, either. I guess he's a bit of a prima donna.
tizzie, was that the NPR piece about the new Solaris? I think I'll take a pass on Solaris, too, and watch the old one maybe. What's the point in remaking some of these films? Why would a director think he has anything to add to Psycho? How long before 2001 gets redone with new, special CGI effects?
Way off topic: I watched 13 Conversations About One Thing last weekend and loved it. I highly recommend this. It's a subtle film, though--nothing really overt here. tj, if you liked Sleep W/ Me, you'll probably love this.
Posted by: shane on November 27, 2002 09:15 AMYep, that was it, shane.
And I also saw 13 Conversations last weekend. Excellent. Great John Turturro - he was so low key that it was hard to recognize him!
shane, meet tizzie. Tizzie, meet Shane. You appear to have similar tastes in movies.
Posted by: pardon me on November 27, 2002 09:30 AMuh, oops. it's always good to hit "refresh" before posting something. just. in. case.
Posted by: pardon me on November 27, 2002 09:31 AMMy friend went to see Top Gun when it first came out. She & her friend were sitting innocently in the theatre and right after the previews as the lights went down and the film started, this guy behind them leaned forward and whispered "Goose dies."
Reminded me of Linus/Lucy "Rosebud" strip. Except on a more low brow scale.
Posted by: witchstone on November 27, 2002 09:36 AMTop Gun is the first movie I really remember watching in the theater, with my parents. My mom covered my eyes during the sex scene. Bitch.
Oh, and I've never seen:
Titanic
Forrest Gump
Saving Private Ryan
Castaway
Patch Adams
or Crossroads.
Um, yes, I do have something against Tom Hanks. Why do you ask?
Posted by: ufez on November 27, 2002 10:01 AMLinus guarda la televisione.
Lucy gli chiede "Cosa stai vedendo?"
Linus: "Citizen Kane"
Lucy: "L'ho giŕ visto dieci volte"
Linus: "E'la prima volta che lo vedo"
Lucy esce dalla stanza dicendo: "Rosebud č il nome della slitta"
Linus si contorce dal dolore: "AAUGH!!"
Heh, tizzie, Turturro really was great. There's this scene where he's walking to his office, and if you watch closely, he makes all his turns in very neat right-angles. And his posture and demeanor and his whole attitude were just perfectly in-character. Perfect! McConaghey was surprisingly good, too. And Arkin is good in anything. Arkin really brought shades of Glengarry Glen Ross to the film, I thought. Maybe that was the idea.
Speaking of David Mamet, if you like him you might enjoy an Argentinian con-game film with Ricardo Darin called Nine Queens. Very Mamet-esque. The film was a step ahead of me at the end even tho' I thought I was a step ahead of it.
Posted by: shane on November 27, 2002 10:08 AMFilms I've never seen, but should have, though probably won't:
any Bond flick
Citizen Kane
Godfather trilogy
the Princess Bride
the Blues Brothers
...and I proudly hadn't seen any Star Wars pictures until I was 19. Should have kept it that way.
Posted by: brittney on November 27, 2002 10:12 AMsorry, only football and playstation will be on my TV for the foreseeable future.
Posted by: tj on November 27, 2002 10:12 AMThe only movie I've seen on that list, ufez, is Forrest Gump. But I only saw it once!
I have something against "Tom Hanks: Oscar Actor!" I liked him back when he didn't take himself so seriously. Like Joe vs. the Volcano. Love that movie.
"You mean you were diagnosed with something called a brain cloud and didn't ask for a second opinion?"
Posted by: witchstone on November 27, 2002 10:13 AMBrittney! you have to see the Godfather and Citizen Kane. OK, you can pass on Citizen Kane, since you probably know the ending... but c'mon!
Posted by: tj on November 27, 2002 10:14 AMI want my self respect back after sitting through Mrs. Doubtfire
Posted by: tj on November 27, 2002 10:17 AMShe might not know the ending if she doesn't speak Italian.
We can encourage Brittney. "C'mon, sweetheart, just a few bites of the Godfather movies, at least!"
Posted by: tizzie on November 27, 2002 10:20 AMCan I admit I'll probably buy some cheesy old horror flicks, Donnie Darko, Ravenous, No Such Thing, Hellcab, the Harryhausen Jason and the Argonauts, some new cheesy horror flicks like Dog Soldiers, and even the first two seasons of Buffy before I'll ever get around to Citizen Kane?
Posted by: shane on November 27, 2002 10:24 AMI LOOOOOVE Hellcab. One of my favorite films. Great flick. Day-in-the-life of a Chicago cabbie with really bad luck. Paul Dillon, who is great in it, acted in a theater version of Hellcab that I'd love to see. You might catch it on a cable pay-channel as Chicago Cab. I guess the word "Hell" was too strong for the TV Guide or something.
Ya know, now that I think of it, Go might even be worth it on DVD...
Posted by: shane on November 27, 2002 10:33 AMThat stinking Peanuts cartoon ruined Citizen Kane for me. I hadn't seen it before that strip hit the papers. Grrrr!
As for George Clooney, anyone who has been privileged to see O Brother Where Art Thou KNOWS the boy can act.
Anyone who has NOT seen O Brother Where Art Thou is totally deprived.
Posted by: b****fire on November 27, 2002 10:48 AMDid you hear the LA Times film critic this ....
9622.net:The site that keeps me sick for home ;)
And I take it, no pick above, as the red x is still there. Peep Peep eep eep. Sorry I became hungry while waiting so I ate two P's.
Posted by: Thomcatspike on November 27, 2002 10:57 AMHey, I clicked over to your 'blog, Brittney. You like Beth Orton? Cool. If you like Lynch, you might like Hal Hartley. Have you seen Amateur or Henry Fool (Parker Posey) or No Such Thing? Hartley writes his own music scores, too, under the pseudonym Ned Rifle.
Posted by: shane on November 27, 2002 11:00 AMbrit (and shane), feeling obligated to watch Citizen Kane can feel like having to swallow some nasty "cherry flavored" cough syrup. But! Give it a chance. On first viewing it will seem slow by modern standards. The best part of Kane, though, is how it works on so many levels:
* The cinematography is considered revolutionary. Gregg Toland's prior work was in the horror genre, and the movie has a very gothic feel to it. Moreover, the extensive use of deep focus and sets with ceilings was unheard-of, and still seems modern.
* The story-behind-the-story about William Randolph Hurst is fascinating.
* The non-linear structure of the story is clever.
* Orson Welles wrote, directed, and starred in the movie. He was 26.
* The editing is also seen as groundbreaking (the most famous example is the breakfast table scene, which basically shows the decline of a marriage in a few minutes on a single set. Without words.)
There's a lot more, but this isn't film class, and I'm not a film snob. I was just lucky to have had two classes in college that examined the film in this level of detail. But the DVD that came out a year or so ago has a commentary by Roger Ebert that addresses many of these same issues.
Posted by: pardon me on November 27, 2002 11:06 AMI have only seen Henry Fool, shane, and liked it very much. I will look into renting some of his others.
pardon me: Citizen Kane is the one film on that list that I do have intentions of seeing. Just haven't gotten around to it quite yet.
Posted by: brittney on November 27, 2002 11:24 AMNot with Crossroads and Bongwater available at the video store.
Posted by: brittney on November 27, 2002 11:26 AMI feel like many people feel disappointed when they see first see Citizen Kane and think "This is the greatest movie ever made? I don't think so."
But I would say give it a chance. For all the reasons that Pardon Me gave. A lot of the things that seem completely normal to a moviegoing audience today--well, these things had never been done before. Also, it's interesting to see the parallels between Charles Foster Kane and Orson Welles himself.
The battle between Orson Welles and Hollywood studios is both maddening and fascinating to me. On the one hand, things like The Magnificent Ambersons tragedy (where the studio cut his 131 minute film to 88 minutes, reshot scenes, tagged on a happy ending and destroyed the extra footage--all while Welles was in South America). Or you've got a film like Touch of Evil which had a pretty revolutionary opening sequence (read about here) which is common now, but the studio hated it and made him change it.
On the other hand, would he have been as great as he sometimes was if he hadn't had something to fight against?
These questions, along with a myriad of others, will be answered. Tonight. When I drop acid.
Happy Thanksgiving everyone! I think I've done enough thinking for the day.
Posted by: witchstone on November 27, 2002 11:29 AMGo might even be worth it on DVD
Didn't dig that one myself.
This thread proves the old maxim that when the basis of the thread is a red X, people will start discussing movies.
Citizen Kane is hard to argue with as the greatest film ever made, in terms of sheer technical brilliance, audacity and writing.
My favorite director for a while now has been Wong Kar Wai (or Kar Wai Wong if you're so inclined). Chungking Express, Fallen Angels, and especially In the Mood for Love (which is now on Criterion DVD) are great, great films. How can you beat a character that loses the power of speech from eating a can of expired pineapple?
I always recommend Bergman's Hour of the Wolf in any film conversation, if only to annoy the participants with such constant repetition.
The recent animé Metropolis is definitely worth a view too.
Donnie Darko continues to impress me at each viewing.
I've also been delving into some of Beat Takeshi's flicks recently. They can be a little whack. but check out Brother if you're into rather violent Yakuza flicks.
We've covered all this film territory in a couple of threads now, but it's always nice to have some newcomers talking movies.
And of course, Blade Runner Blade Runner Blade Runner.
Posted by: kafkaluxinterior on November 27, 2002 11:46 AMnever seen the Godfather???
"Whaddaya think, it's like the Army, ya shoot 'em from a mile away..you gotta get up close..ba-da-bing! get brains all over your nice Ivy League suit..."
Sorry. I have that movie memorized. As a half-Italian tri-state area resident, I have to---it's the law.
Don't mind me. I'm just feelin' chipper. Only a half-day of work then it's off to the Lower East Side for bialys and be bim bop.
Posted by: jonmc on November 27, 2002 11:52 AMDon't be bim bop in public, jonmc.
I did that on the bus once, and spent the night in the slammer.
Posted by: kafkaluxinterior on November 27, 2002 11:54 AMI guess I should do some reading, sit down and appreciate Citizen Kane sometime (as opposed to the cursory viewing I've given it in the past). Thing is I never feel like it. Heck, I haven't even seen Magnolia, because I can never spare 3 hours at a sitting. But if I'm bedridden any time soon I'll be pulling out Kane and Solaris and Magnolia...
Kai Wong sounds really cool, Kaf. And Metroplolis is beautiful. No need to spend a lot of enrgy watching the plot. Just sit back and let the imagery pour over you. For Otomo fans there is also The Order to Stop Construction, which evidently is on a collection called Manie Manie, although it was called "NeoTokyo" the last time I watched it. The other shorts like Labyrinth and Running Man are all cool, too.
I suppose Brotherhood of the Wolf has been covered here, so I won't go into that...
Posted by: shane on November 27, 2002 12:04 PMIf you watched Solaris, Citizen Kane and Stalker back to back, you'd need an adrenaline shot to shock you out of the ensuing torpor.
Posted by: kafkaluxinterior on November 27, 2002 12:12 PMI never saw Brotherhood of the Wolf, but I did hear it was bloody awful.
Posted by: kafkaluxinterior on November 27, 2002 12:14 PMOh my good God. It was fucking terrible.
And long.
Posted by: brittney on November 27, 2002 12:15 PMThe thing is, they trick you with the first 10 minutes. There's a really fantastic fight scene. I was sitting there thinking "Hell yeah, the French can do action!" And then immediately after that, it sucks in a way that nothing has ever sucked before. Every time they can potentially do something interesting with it, they don't.
"what, as the Worst Movie Ever Made?"
No, I'm afraid that's Lady Godiva Rides. If you ever have the opportunity to see it, I highly recommend it, just for the feeling of "Oh my God I can't believe this ever made it onto film".
Posted by: Crash on November 27, 2002 12:22 PMshane: Whatever your final reaction may be, I implore you to see Magnolia right away, and before reading anything else about it. If you hear someone mention it tell them to be quiet, and if they don't punch them in the throat.
Posted by: brittney on November 27, 2002 12:23 PMMagnolia? I was just going to say tha--
*gak!*
Posted by: kafkaluxinterior on November 27, 2002 12:25 PMHeh, I enjoyed Brotherhood of the Wolf. The kung-fu was a little out of place, but at least it was kind of "generic" fighting and they didn't make it obviously a martial arts style (like the vampires in Buffy who rise from the grave striking kickboxing stances and throwing Tai Kwan Do roundhouse kicks and blocks).
I guess I liked Brotherhood for several reasons:
a. It was written with intertwined themes and motifs. For example, the title has at least three distinct meanings within the plot.
b. Mani was the perfect "noble savage." Chingachcook, Queequeg, Conan, Sweeney... now Mani.
c. I loved the period costumes and sets.
d. I enjoyed the fact that the film played off of legend and actual historical events, and also incorporated the politics of the time into the storyline.
e. I really liked the cinematography--[cliche] a "visual feast." [/cliche]
In general, I thought it was a "thinking" adventure film, like Crichton's Thirteenth Warrior or the stories of Robert E Howard (Howard's work was absolutely slaughtered in the Conan movies. Auugh!)
I don't think any the less of any of you for disliking Brotherhood, but for me it's a DVD pick. Loved it! No accounting for taste, I guess.
Posted by: shane on November 27, 2002 12:28 PM3 movies everyone should see:
1. Maltese Falcon
2. We're No Angels (the Original, not the remake)
3. Strangers on a Train
Oooh - wow, so many haters of the Brotherhood of the Wolf. I happened to love that show - I mean how can it be boring with pre-revolutionary French political struggles, a semi-supernatural beast attacking innocent villagers, a dash of magical native american wisdom, a corrupt religious institution, and a lead who can not only kick your ass, but respects the natural world and is a damn fine taxidermist to boot.
Just let go of your need to have the whole thing follow a particular genre, and love it for what it is, I do. But then, I generally like most movies, and am frequently branded an optimist, so whatta ya gonna do?
Posted by: kokogiak on November 27, 2002 01:41 PMHonestly, Britt, a lot of people won't take you seriously as a film critic unless you've at least seen the first Godfather film. If you really hate it, you can skip on the second (even though I like it better than the first). I'm sure we all agree that you can skip the third. It's complete garbage.
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