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dual G4 and as big a monitor as you have $ left over for...

Thanks, just some turkey - like this one?

Miguel, how very cam girl of you!

I stay as far away from peecees as possible. You could do the 17" imac w/ superdrive within that range. Okay...I've waited almost a week to tell...my fiancee made me get a 20 gig iPod last weekend. It's amazing. Starting to get into the new Apple apps too. isync and ical with the iiiiiiiiipod. Simple and very useful. I look at peecees now and I'm just amazed and wonder why anyone would put themselves through that torture. Oh...happy Thanksgiving everyone. I'm stuffed, sitting in from of mom's fireplace. Peace.

more lower-end than that one: like this one-- only 1700, then you can get a studio display or something....

or you could go much cheaper with an emac (just $990-ish lately)...if you're only going to be writing and posting on it...

Thanks, anathema and amberglow! So I guess it's either a 17" imac or a dual G4 with a 17" display. The imac is so much cuter and the large screen hides the base. But I suppose it's underpowered compared to the ugly-looking G4.

Ah, decisions...decisions!

Here in Portugal, all my friends said if I buy a Mac I won't be able to see half the Web (and not see it much more slowly), send attachments with my e-mails to my friends...

[You're right, Brittney - I am sounding very camgirlish!)

Miguel, your friends are fibbin'. You'll be able to see everything on the Web that you can see now.

Join us. Become one of us. You know the Mac is calling you.

(I might be biased. I've been on 'em for 15 years.)

you can expand the g4 and/or upgrade to a g5 chip when they come out (next year), but with the imac or emac you supposedly can't upgrade them....and you can hide the g4 box on the floor anyway....

oh, and spring for the double your memory deal for $40--they never ship with enough memory....

: > (hoping apple sends me a check...)

I haven't yet bought the thing and already I have to upgrade?

I guess my only question is for writing and surfing, do I need whatever the G4 has that a 1 GB imac hasn't? I have no films to make, no photoshopping ambitions, nothing remotely graphic-related I'd like to do. But, if g4 it is, then g4 on the floor sounds good.

Thanks so much, dear aine42 and amberglow!

P.S. This would be the anathema-inspired imac set-up I'd go for. It also looks like I'd be able to burn 9622 CDs "in loco", without buying anything else...

[quonsar eyes his 3 year old, $400 eMachine with conflicting emotions]

I guess I'm the lone dissenter here. I'd build my own Windows box, similar to this Dell Dimension 8250.

Macs just ain't got the horsepower, my simian siblings. That 133mHz bus is a HUGE bottleneck, especially for a dual-processor system.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. Whatever floats your boat.

Macs are for doody-heads!

Blow the money on booze and drugs and loose women, and hire a kid for peanuts to type up your wacked-out screeds instead!

...er, not that your screeds are especially wacked-out, of course, but after all those chemicals, they just might be.

No, I can't take the money, Stav. It's the computer or nothing, not a sausage - something to do with tax.

Besides, I've always used Macs, apart from the last two, rather miserable years. For writing, this noisy, ugly thing in front of me, even though it's supposedly stacked and the Nokia screen is very big, is depressing.

I suppose I want to go back to a single, does-everything, self-sufficient object, like my first and latest Mac. It's more like a proper pen.

PCs look like...offices and small firms and spreadsheet thingies.

Though I admire the way you sound just like Doctor Hunter Thompson at his very best! ;)

My advice: Macs are pretty.

Sorry, I'm not very technical.

d00d--One of us. One of us.

Mac all the way, babe. You can buy yourself a titanium, and have a secondary monitor when you want to use it as a desktop, or you can carry it with you when you go on outings. For instance, when you show up in my bathtub, you can write your errata and credos and screeds while you wait for me to roll in from an all-nighter. You'll be so portable. And then you can hop on the Airport and send everything lickety-split to those yokels over the pond who read your prose.

OR! you can buy the iBook for much less money, still have a secondary monitor (although it will only mirror your laptop screen). And then you can spend the rest of the budget on printers and Airport cards and other necessary items. Mac Mac Mac.

(Although I still think OSX sux).

Well, I recommend against the Dell machines. First, they don't have a real reset button, so you have to hard reboot if windows freezes...which of course, it will. Second, they load it with all kinds of crap that takes forever to get off the box. Third, they're slow performers. My Dells have been nothing but trouble, I really regret buying them.

Recently, we've been swapping our Dells out for Alienware boxes, and I swear by them. They are truly amazing bits of machinery.

I've also heard Alienware machines are the goat's testicles.

Uhh, meaning they're good, I should probably say. But do they ship to Lisbon?

Hey you bastards! Wake up, dammit! I've got a skinfull and I wanna talk about nebuchadnezzar and the Power and Beauty of 'It's a Mad Mad Mad MAd Mad Mad Mad World'.

Fuckin' timezones.

Ha! No more than one "l" in skinful, my beautifull, hopefull, willfull, wonderfull sackfull of offall! ;)

I wanna talk nebuchadnezzar
Did William Vollman ever make any of our lit lists? There is an amazing retelling of the Nebuchadnezzar story in his book Rainbow Stories. If you haven't read him, this is a good place to start. I think over the winter break I might start his historical novels about the populating of North America. Highly, highly recommended author.

Migs I also suggest a powerbook. My only machine is a clamshell iBook 466MHz DVD, 320 MB RAM, Airport, running OS X 10.2 (Jaguar). Incredible machine. The only problems I have had are ones that a caused myself, screwing around with hinckey software. It took a while but I swear by OS X. Unbelievably customizable and totally intuitive. Networking is a breeze. Wireless rocks. Don't believe a word about macs being slower or not able to do certain things. Total uninformed lies. Support is good too. If you get a laptop (see recent article about scorched scrotum) portable machine, you should get the extended three year Apple Care plan, just in case. Maybe for desktop too.
The thing is Miguel, you say that you only have modest needs but as soon as you get one of these machines you will not be able to keep yourself from trying everything out.
Anyone get my mixes yet?

laptop

Yo, yo, yo...wait just a cotton-pickin' minute here, shouldn't we be keeping it in the family here? Give cow-monkey brotha adampsyche a call here and just make monkey-noises into the phone...

Make Mine a Mac.

I've used them for all of my computing years and I've never done wrong. Right now, I have an ugly brown G3 (from right before the return of Jobs), 333mhz, 6 gig drive, 92 megs of ram. Yeah, it's not pretty, but it does what it's supposed to.

Miguel, also consider that you can keep the mammoth screen you have now and just buy a $20 converter to use with your mac.

Also consider the following purchases (you know, for "Work" related stuff):
* Make sure you can burn cds with it
* Get them to throw in a small digital camera
* A cheap scanner would be nice

Your friends were half-right: .exe attachments will not open on your Mac, but since half of them are the computer equivalent of "the clap", who cares? You can still open dirty pictures, you can still watch little clips of monkeys drinking their own urine.

*Oh, one more thing, make them get you a high speed connection.

I have have never been sent a .exe attachment that was necessary. CC is right though. they will not open and thank god they don't. So migs, is this a loaner or are they going to let you keep it forever?

Funny, I'm dithering over the same choice as Miguel is: top-end iMac or low-end tower. (I'm currently using an iBook 600/combo/12", love it to pieces.) I can see a use for a DVD burner for myself, but that's probably overkill in Miguel's case.

Being a builder of peecee boxen, and worked on maks. Go with whatever you're the most comfortable with and think you'll have the least issues with.

that said. Alienware PCs fucking rock.

Just to clarify, I was absolutely not suggesting buying a Dell (no way would I want anyone I know to fund any more of their asinine commercials), I was saying I'd build my own, similar to that Dell, specs-wise.

Now my conscience is clear.

Someone with Madd Photoshop Skillz has got to make us a Miguel "Switch" ad.

i think Mac wins--Have they opened an Apple Store in Lisbon yet, Miguel? you could ask them there and see what they recommend...machine-wise.

(first draft)

Doop. Dee-doop.

"I was writing a MetaFilter post, on my PC, and it was like BEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEP! And I'm like, hunh?

"It DEVOURED my post. It was really good post. Not like those other posts.

De-doop.

"I've lost hundreds of posts this way. All those 24-hour periods in which I could have posted, but didn't? My computer ate the post!

"It's enough to make a man reach for the bottle, I tell you."

Wow, talk about support!

Anathema, it's a loaner-keeper, if I keep up my end of the bargain - tnen I can buy it for peanuts.

I guess my quandary now is:

1) Do I go for the ugly, uncoordinated, slightly more expensive basic dual G4 (which is expandable)with the 17" display;
or
2) Do I go for the purty, coordinated (but not expandable, RAM apart), slightly cheaper 800/80 imac with the 17" display
or
3) Do I get drunk and buy one of those massive teenager's wet dream Alienware monsters?

I'll ask in the shop. Wish jonmc went back to sales for one day... he'd sort me out. Wooncha? I don't want a portable because I write enough as it is. And I hate batteries.

Mucho thankeroos, amigos and amigas!

Mcwetboy: let's keep in touch about our common dilemma, OK? First guy to buy the ???? (whatever turns out to be the best choice next year when Macs get their 64-bit IBM chips) wins! ;)

Oh yes - Happy Chanukah, all! For the purposes of gaining extra birthday threads, find out your Jewish birthday here! [scroll down a bit, right hand side]

*Judaism and Co.: Regularly beating the Christians to the holiday season since way before the birth of Jesus* ;)

Oh, and when you get that computer, Miguel, you should buy some kick ass speakers for it. Important investment, you know.

we rock! take that, you Christians--two birthdays, and hanukkah too!

miguel at an ibook (not sure if the link'll work..)

Mac mac mac, I say. And given your needs, Miguel, I'd buy an iMac and deck it out. It's a gorgeous lil' machine. On the other hand, they're going to announce iMac spec upgrades in January... can you wait a bit?

I'm astonished (and pleased) to see that the erudite men and thundersluts of 9622 are, by and large, of the Applish persuasion. Hurrah!

Merry Hannukah to you all. Especially the Jewish ones. Anyone have good websites for Jews who stopped believing in God, erev Rosh Hashanah?

Anathema - your mixes arrived a couple of days ago. Have now listened, and am prepared to do a report. Ditto for you, jonmc. Please navigate to the reviews thread, and thank-you so much, once again!

you don't have to believe in god, marquis...look at it as a cultural or ethnic or tribal thing...(miguel may disagree tho)

it's hysterical how everyone spells hanukkah differently!

And I've heard that G5's are coming out next fall...

Has anyone linked to this yet? Not sure, as I'm a little flaky today:

As so it was like beep, beep. And that's when I decided to switch to a Mac. They don't have any exposed orifices for our long skinny friends to crawl into.

Evidently Macs are critter-proof.

Stavros:

The original 'It's a Mad(etc) World' was great. I could swear it had 5 'Mads' in the title, though. I remember counting everytime I watched it as a kid. But now I think it has been shortened to 4. They pruned it of a 'Mad'! Am I right? The new version doesn't really compare, Mr Bean or no.

Just so you don't buy it today!

Apropos of absolutely nothing my local classic rock station is doing a top 1043 songs of all time countdown. Yeah it's a cheesy cliche but I'm a sucker for these, and you get to hear those old chestnuts you haven't heard in ages...they played "Hot Rod Lincoln" earlier and they just played "You Took The Words Right Outta My Mouth."

w00t!!

There's a new version of Mad mad etc etc??

Also, *sticks tongue out at Miguell*

I didn't buy anything today. The rest of my relatives made up for it. (Tradition.)

Anyway, happy Chanukah y'all...enjoy that chanukah gelt, etc....as for me I will be praying for January 1st to get here as soon as possible as all the Christmas craziness makes me...well, crazy. Most bipolars hate Christmas. Christmas cantatas, presents to buy, stuff to cook, sappy christmas songs, and Wal-mart (or is that Wall-hell? I HATE crowds.)Not to mention having to spend spend spend.
Besides, Jesus was most likely born in March.

And pleeeeezzzze don't make me watch any version of "It's a Wonderful Life".

The only thing that I can stand is "A Christmas Carol". From Mr. Magoo to George C. Scott to Kermit the frog...I just love any version I see.

end of rant. Thank yew for your patience. Now I'm off to find out what my Jewish birthday is.

Kislev 21, 5719

Yeah that's what I'm sayin' Dude. If you lose a book to some beep beep beep beep crash, it would be like, a bummer.

How's the allergy meds, Ellen?

mine is:
Kislev 26, 5725
The next time this day occurs is:
Sunday, December 21, 2003-- that's weird--I already missed my birthday this year....boooo!!! (well, i'm getting drunk anyway tomorrow!)

mine is:
Kislev 26, 5725
The next time this day occurs is:
Sunday, December 21, 2003-- that's weird--I already missed my birthday this year....boooo!!! (well, i'm getting drunk anyway tomorrow!)

Ellen, i used to use that allergy trick when i was in high school too hon!

in fact, i used that trick twice!

Wow, like stop posting things I've already read, okay? It takes me twice as long to read... and then, like, I totally forget what the first one said.

I'm sitting here wearing nothing but a Brewers hat.

just trying to liven things up

Well, I'M speechless.

I'm sitting here wearing nothing but Brewers' droop. And a grin.

I'm wearing nothing but a glass of merlot as my only accessory and the stank of Bloomin' Onions.

Heidi Klum is wearing Stav.

But meanwhile the competition gears up...

That toy has got to be the product of some interns acid trip induced during an absolutely deperate product developement session.

I hate to admit it, but I know what this toy is a product of. Oh, the shame, the shame.

Waitaminnit. Miguel is getting a new computer--in exchange for 'blogging?! (We skipped right past that, didn't we?) And Tizzie has inside info on Elmo?

What gives, people? 'Fess up!

(I'm wearing cheap carpenter's pants and Chuck Taylors, like you're even interested.)

we had one of those in the office two months ago, for a shoot, and it's the most annoying toy ever--parents everywhere are going to be throwing them against walls or stomping on them or hiding the batteries after about a day of listening to it...

Alienware machines are indeed the shee-it. My wife and I have a matched pair. But it must be said that they are gaming machines first and foremost, and I don't picture Miguel as all that 733t. Also, before you go thinking our machines are still the shee-it, they are a couple of years old.

We're looking at getting Dell systems now, just because we've waited too long to upgrade and can get the machines we want under a grand each.

That said, I could see how a Mac would be perfect for you, Miguel. Writin and surfin...should be fine.

Get that nice one that looks like an IKEA lamp. Or the toaster oven.

I've heard the Atari 800 is top notch.

I built my own alien ware style box for much cheaper than those guys are charging, but I'm assuming Miguel doesn't want to build one.

That does it. I'm getting the lamp.

witchstone: may i suggest the apple ][e?

(I can't tell you how many hours I've wasted playing games on that thing)

I would suggest the lamp as well Miguel. OSX is supposed to be pretty good and it will have pretty much everything you need.

What the hell is this all about?

Miguel is getting rewards for bloggin?

*head explodes*

(get the new iMac with the wide screen, dude)

Straight from the farmhands mouth. Is this just a backlash? Cud be.

So migs, did the new machine arrive on time? BTW, have the 9622 archives always appeared vertically and not horizontally?

Yay! It arrived an hour late. But it's beautiful!

Fairy tale!

Thanks, friends!

Wheeeee!

(Can't login anywhere yet, of course...)

Ok folks can ya help a brotha out.

through an employ purchase plan, with 2 year payback plan: I can purchase an IBook G3 800 for $1860.00
or
new Imac with 17" for 2034.00.

Not having anyone around my parts who use one, your assistance would be appreciated. I've only worked on IBM pcs. I first used a computer for engineering needs, like fortran. so I'm a newbie to apple, but as I would I would use it more for media & writing I take it this is the way to go.

I do have full specs on each system above. if someone volunteers their assistance I can e-mail them then...thanks.

thom, see if you can get a deal on a emac...lower end than those, but G4 chip like the imac, and only like a thousand bucks....

If you're not using it for highend stuff it's a good starter mac : >

Just go order one of the 17" TiBooks. Damn It!

Yes amber with some research, I've noticed they are hosing me with the price, but then agian it's an iterest free loan. But a G4 would be a better buy.

Ana the 17"Ibooks not on the list for me to buy, that is why I've e-mail HR to find out when they will update their list of available products.

They have some nice Dell, which I think would be a waste even though the Dells on paper look like a better buy.

Thanks for the push to Apple. Hope to update you soon with the outcome. This thread has served some purpose.

Dude. The Dells are hella cheap, yo.

I just picked mine up for about 750$. Sure, it may not look like a lamp or whisper soothing cultist anthems, but it works!

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