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December 29, 2002 : Ghosts of Christmas Hell


Public service annouuncement: whatever you may do in current or future holiday seasons, do not, I repeat, do not, spend $120.00 to go see Trans Siberian Orchestra. No matter how much your friends may say "They're really cool. You're gonna love 'em".

Picture "It's a Spinal Tap Christmas". Only without any of the humor.

Posted by yhbc at December 29, 2002 09:08 AM


People have said these things about that :

And to make it worse, it was only after the "show" and while enjoying libations at the Old Worthen House (Lowell's Oldest Tavern, with original tin ceiling and pulley-driven ceiling fan system) that I seemed to remember I might be in the vicinity of one jpoulos' stomping grounds.

Should've called! Sorry, lupo.

Posted by: yhbc on December 29, 2002 09:16 AM

Now, to keep this thread from just being my own personal navel-gazer:

Anyone else have any tales of obscenely bad live shows?

Posted by: yhbc on December 29, 2002 09:17 AM

Obscenely bad live show in Cinci this morning:






Waste of a perfectly good stadium, in my humble pissed-off opinion. Scared my dogs with the boom booms, too.

Posted by: tizzie on December 29, 2002 12:55 PM

feh. sorry tizz, but I visited cinergy on a road trip i made a couple of years ago. it was a big room in which people played baseball. it had no soul.

yeah, i live about six minutes from the Old Worthen, commish. next time, definitely call.

I think that trans-siberian trainwreck is featured in a computer commercial--doing "deck the halls" or some such. manheimm steamroller for the Zeppelin generation?

Posted by: jpoulos on December 29, 2002 01:53 PM

Speaking of Spinal Tap, I just bought these for a friend of mine for Christmas.

Worst shows? I can't think of one show that burned itself into my memory as horrible, but most shows that I see now are just sort of unmemorable. Or I'm old, or something.

Posted by: readymade on December 29, 2002 02:54 PM

I kept trying not to care, lupo, since I knew it wouldn't make any difference anyway. But then this morning they had the old seat map graphic in the paper, and I saw my favorite little old single seat in the red, and the seat in the outfield I had for the opening day game when the ump died, and the company seats we had behind the visitors box. And I got kinda teary.

I've got a drawerful of ticket stubs upstairs. It's where I watched people play baseball, so it mattered to me.

Posted by: tizzie on December 29, 2002 02:59 PM

Judas Priest, "Turbo" Tour. The turd-ridden bottom of the long and effortless downward spiral. It was so sad, to see the once mighty thus fallen. REM on Monster tour was no picnic, either - the very height of Michael Stipe's self-involvement. Dude, fact facts: you sing. When Mikey can do financial services marketing in the shower, I'll start listening to his inane rants. Until then, let's hear some End of the World as We Know It, you muttonhead!

As for the Trans Siberian Orchestra, my understanding is that they are neither transexuals nor Siberians. That in itself would have given me pause prior to purchasing a ticket. Truth in advertising, don't ya know.

Posted by: Unclefes on December 29, 2002 03:02 PM

Ah, the Priest.

I used to have a huge poster of them on my bedroom wall, and I still love spinning British Steel every now and again. Although given Rob Halford's recent revelations this album title has a whole new world of subtexts...

Posted by: jonmc on December 29, 2002 04:41 PM

My mom just went to see TSO today. She seemed to really like it. And by mom standards, mine is pretty hip. (She's who introduced me to Iron Butterfly, Led Zeppelin and Eric Clapton, after all.)

Posted by: dejah420 on December 29, 2002 04:44 PM

Be warned: If you play Judas Priest backwards, it sounds like Barbra Streisand.

Posted by: liam on December 29, 2002 07:25 PM


Posted by: ColdChef on December 29, 2002 07:39 PM

Wrong thread. Curse my oily hide.

Posted by: ColdChef on December 29, 2002 07:40 PM

Looks like Dream Theater in schmantzy attire. I'll try to curb my zeal and stay home this time.

Posted by: aw on December 29, 2002 09:08 PM

Oh, and it wasn't exactly revealing anything to the public when Halford came out, now was it?

Posted by: aw on December 29, 2002 09:18 PM

Some of us metal fans ain't too swift, aw....

Posted by: jonmc on December 29, 2002 09:30 PM

i think that the fact that trans-siberian orchestra seems, always, for some reason, mentioned only a breath before or after yanni, should've given you some indication of what to expect.

and $120?

i hope they had a keg or something.

Posted by: fishfucker on December 29, 2002 10:17 PM

(just got back from Connecticut, where we did Christmas on Sunday because, well, it snowed on Christmas day around here)

$120 was for two tickets, for the missus and meself. And I didn't know, and agreed last year (memo to self: don't agree to do things with people who are drunk) to go see them the next time around, because they were "freakin' awesome!"

We started to get bad vibes about the whole thing early in the week, and boy, the vibes were right.

Anyhoo, good to see that Chef and Kaf stayed out of trouble in the Big Easy! Although ... who's the skinny short-haired guy with Chef? Surely Kafkaponytail must have been taking the picture, then. One good thing about the whole TSO debacle was that we had CC's excellent Christmas Mix CD to listen to on the (long) way home. Thankya, thankya, thankya!

And lupo, I am sorry. The Missus practically whacked me when I suddenly said "Hey! jpoulos lives around here!" The Worthen House is a cool bar, with an actual working air-hockey game (among other cool stuff). We had fun, and I recaptured enough of the zen of air-hockey to remember the angles necessary to beat the 20-something hot-shot snot two games out of three. It's like riding a bicycle - you don't forget. Also, a good proportion of the patronage seemed to be young, nubile, and large-breasted (not that I was looking or anything!) Next time we head north, we call first.

I know, I know -
"get your own 'blog, fuckwit!"

Posted by: yhbc on December 29, 2002 10:46 PM

"Anyone else have any tales of obscenely bad live shows?"

Nugent, 1988 or thereabouts. $5 a ticket, and I should've demanded a refund. I left after three songs. At least, I think it was three songs. It may have been three verses of one song, 'cause it all sounded exactly the same, which was a big failing of the old Salt Palace's acoustics. Nonetheless, friends who stayed for the whole show told me the next day that I left about ten minutes too early and missed the best part of the concert, which was the fight that broke out about ten feet away from where I was sitting. To recap: $5 tickets, shit acoustics, and the best part of the concert was a fight between two stoned audience members. Can it get any lamer?

Possibly.

Huey Lewis and the News, 1983, I think. The Sports tour. Choreographed down to the last mike-stand lean, and it showed. I'm not kidding. If you saw any of the videos on MTV, you saw the best parts of the live show. Lame, lame, lame. Remember the part in one of the videos where Huey did this kind of reverse-tapdance thing from the front of the stage to the back, and the two guitar players came running in from the sides of the stage? They did it twice in that show.

Horrid.

Posted by: Crash on December 29, 2002 11:03 PM

$120?! There's no one I'd pay $120 to see. And especially not an orchestra lacking either transsexuals, Siberians, or transsexual Siberians. Sorry, no.

After all these years, BOC's Club Ninja tour is still my touchstone for the worst performance I've ever seen, but a Doors cover show where the Morrison-wannabe took the crotch grabbing just a little too seriously runs a strong second. Yes, I know: "Doors cover show"="You must be high."

Posted by: octobersurprise on December 29, 2002 11:18 PM

I would pay $120 to see Barbra Streisand











Getting her ass kicked by a bunch of burly midgets.

Posted by: eyeballkid on December 29, 2002 11:42 PM

See, now I read that as "...by a bunch of surly midgets.", which I think would be way more entertaining.

Posted by: Crash on December 29, 2002 11:45 PM

EBK is my hero.

And, no, there's no one around today that I'd pay $60/seat for.

Worst show? I saw the Pointer Sisters around 1989 or so. But I got paid to go, as I was reviewing the show for the local paper.

Posted by: jpoulos on December 29, 2002 11:56 PM

Lupo, I used to have the sizzling hots for June Pointer. Don't ruin my adolescent fantasies, please.

Posted by: Crash on December 30, 2002 12:36 AM

i recently declined to pay over $120 to see the who (this fact so upset john entwhistle that he quit and joined jimi hendrix' band a week before the show) and i damn sure wouldn't consider paying $60 to see the seasonal electric wankfest that is TSO! the local classic rock station generally squirts off 2 or 3 TSO cuts in the week before christmas and that pretty much holds me through the year. :-)

worst concert? god, i don't know. the runaways on stage in 95 degree heat at a rodeo ground comes to mind. when lita ford did her guitar-as-machine-gun-squat-thrusts most of the first 20 rows just keeled over. eeeeew.

Posted by: quonsar on December 30, 2002 09:17 AM

oh. oh dear.

Posted by: jpoulos on December 30, 2002 09:55 AM

I don't know that I've ever been to a truly bad show. I've been to shows where bands I love (Belly, The Afghan Whigs) have had bad nights. I've never had the displeasure of seeing the Pointer Sisters or King Crimson at the local county fair. Am I just lucky?

Posted by: eyeballkid on December 30, 2002 11:22 AM

Worst show? For me it was also my First show - I won tickets to go see... (wait for it) "The Knack" at the height of "My Sharona" fame. I was in Junior High, so my Mom took me. There were about 1,000 people in the audience in a stadium-sized venue (in other words, sadly empty). The kids behind us (we were in seats) were getting stoned and my Mom kept asking "What's that smell?". The music and show were lame lame lame. How lame? Two weeks later we went to see the "Ice Capades" in the same place and I liked it better than the Knack.

Posted by: kokogiak on December 30, 2002 01:02 PM

Talking about bad shows, I'm moving today and tomorrow and won't be online for a few days. Just to wish you all a very happy Gregorian New Year, much drubkeness and friendship and lurve!

*breaks into a heartrending rendition of Sinatra's "It Was a Very Good Year"*

Posted by: Miguel on December 30, 2002 02:47 PM

Good luck with those pesky boxes!

Fabulous news for drinkers (NY Times link); I can feel my heart beating just a little bit stronger after this. It's as though someone is telling me that if I smoke I'm adding years to my life. Heaven.

Posted by: readymade on December 30, 2002 03:02 PM

It's that whole "moderate" thing I have a problem with. I want to see a study that says lying around in a drunken stupor is good for me.

Posted by: Crash on December 30, 2002 03:57 PM

Soon, crash, soon. All was foretold in "Sleeper:"

Dr. Melik: [T]his morning for breakfast, uh, he requested something called wheat germ, organic honey, and tiger's milk.

Doctor: Oh yes. Those are the charmed substances that some years ago were thought to contain life preserving properties.

Dr. Melik: You mean there was no deep fat? No steak, or cream pies, or hot fudge?

Doctor: Those were thought to be unhealthy. Precisely the opposite of what we now know to be true.

Posted by: readymade on December 30, 2002 04:33 PM

Maybe a bunch of midgets dressed up like Kiss...

Posted by: aw on December 30, 2002 07:09 PM

... talking about bad shows,

New Order who headlined at Irvine Amphitheatre(great acoustics no excuses) sucked and did it on purpose from reports of other folks from previous conerts. The leader singer forgot the words and let the audiece sing for him. Which was better than him anyway, he sung off key, really.

But PIL kicked ass, Johnny gave a great perfomane in a neon green suite.......and on top of it the girl I took to the concert unfortunately it was her first and last concert ever so it makes for more sorrow.

I mention PiL as the commish put a cut on his halloween Cd which reminds me of the good times I had on the way and after the concert with my departed friend :)

Posted by: Thomcatspike on December 31, 2002 10:48 AM

i sold snow cones at woodstock too.

i want that printed on my grave stone.

happy fucking new year, y'all.

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